Alexander Dugin interprets the Strauss-Howe Generational Theory, or the "Fourth Turning," as a framework for understanding the cyclical nature of history through four Turnings.
Jasmine, “The west” will only destroy that part of the world where it is profitable to do so. If “conservatism” is about tradition & family values how is that a dead end? If you equate conservatism with crony capitalism then I share your cynicism, how much will it take for the species to wake, to the staggeringly foolish practice of endowing complete strangers with the mantle of “authority “
John 2:27 “Let no man teach you”
Shall we be dragged from pillar of fear to post of craven deceit by the powers we have ensconced by our very own patronage?
These turnings are but the revolutions of the wheel on the rack of our own indifference.
Whence can we be empowered?
By acknowledging that Christ will not return to fulfil the celebrity dream of a sleeping population.
Christ already has already returned, for salvation is of the heart .
His ransom was paid by the pouring out of the Spirit of Truth upon humanity from the crucifix.
Our error, among many, is looking for a physical relic of Christ, in the bible, or a talisman, when the Life of Christ needs to be taken as a Spiritual Life.
This was the purpose of his example.
We are spirit, with a body, for now.
Spirit is eternal. Hence His advice “Be in the world not of the world “
Our duty to God is to live our life.
All the hand wringing & sad feelings about the plight of this iteration of “civilisation” is an indulgence of the imagination for emotional thrills, “Christ said “Be of good cheer for I bring good news of the Kingdom”
He never said “Be afraid, be Very Afraid” for that us the currency of the demiurge.
This is kind of irrelevant if we consider the pace of history or how global processes developed earlier nothing to fret about considering regular life span. Some predicted the Collective West will collapse around 2040-2050 and I don't have the luxury or time to wait for those "turnings" to happen or unravel.Even retirement golden years look murky or uncertain with their attacks onour savings ,body freedoms or choices we used to have and took for granted.
I think you are over estimating the power if the West and under estimating the resilience of the species. 'The world' will be fine and The Truth will attend to itself.
Another fascinating perspective. However, in my humble opinion, the Fourth Turning, which marks the crisis cycle, is far from over, as Prof. Dugin asserts.
Indeed, this ‘turning’ is now entering its ‘externalized destructive’ phase — a phrase that began and will end with President Trump.
Reference to the cyclical ‘nature’ of philosophical ‘progress’, with intonations of Historical Truths, will provide Humans with Faith and Hope towards a Future guided by Love for our Fellowship as a Species.
Jesus Christ has kicked out of the temple the Satanic Cannibalised Financial Merchants. In the XXI century Finance Capital laws and existence needs global wars for a comfortable fat Profit on the invested Capital. Philosophy has never resolved humanity’s downfall. There isn’t any awakening on the horizon.
That’s the propulsive force of every thing concerning the development of Matter. The science of History is the only key to unlock Truth. I have the feeling that a “variation “ of a « nouveau bourgeoisie » is trying very hard to compete for global world power by a philosophical building of sophisms and hypocrisy.
Generally, I agree with this essay. Trump as a person, rather than Trump as a phenomenon (Trumpism), has only limited self-awareness. His self-awareness is circumscribed by its egoism and narcissistic nature. Attempts to ascribe intellectual attributes to him are misguided. He is, in his most essential social nature, a transactionalist. As a person, Trump is only a SIGN that we are rapidly approaching, or indeed may be in the early stages of the Fourth Turning. Trumpism on the other hand is its manifestation. It can be debated as to whether “wokeness” is the anti-Christ or whether Trump the man is…in either case, historically, i.e., temporally, they are virtually inseparable.
Please consider this: like all scheduled behavioral cycles, the ~80y S-H generational cycle is likely "just" a hormone cycle, as ~70% of mammalian populations undergo multiannual population-wide hormone cycles, the period ranging from 2y fish cycles to +60y caribou cycles. In all species' cycles - no matter the environment - all animals in a cyclical population undergo four phases of a predetermided behavioral pattern.
I think it’s better to understand current events on their own terms instead of trying to see how they resemble past events. To understand the moment as it presents itself instead of trying to see how it fits in a cycle. This especially true of the current situation in post-Assad Syria, which is proving to be an unprecedented revolution.
Trump is also unprecedented in everything he does politically. He is not really conservative or liberal or left. He needs to be understood according to his own reference.
I believe when we recur to symbolism some flawed aspects of reality don't come into play, we tend to elevate what is already high and bring down what is already low, and human imperfection doesn't really match the perfection and the symbolism of an history so close-ended. I think its natural place is literature.
Second problem is we will never know if we're dealing with a self-fulfilling prophecy, the cyclical nature of history may not even exist and thus the High age promised would be a bitter illusion, this is a risk, but the analysis definitely has a point and has much to do with what's happening in the world.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation liquidated the deputy commander of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Russian Federation
Salim Muharbetovych Pashtov, deputy commander of the 810th Marine Brigade, who was at the command post in the city of Lhov, Kursk Region, at the time of the attack, was killed.
Jasmine, “The west” will only destroy that part of the world where it is profitable to do so. If “conservatism” is about tradition & family values how is that a dead end? If you equate conservatism with crony capitalism then I share your cynicism, how much will it take for the species to wake, to the staggeringly foolish practice of endowing complete strangers with the mantle of “authority “
John 2:27 “Let no man teach you”
Shall we be dragged from pillar of fear to post of craven deceit by the powers we have ensconced by our very own patronage?
These turnings are but the revolutions of the wheel on the rack of our own indifference.
Whence can we be empowered?
By acknowledging that Christ will not return to fulfil the celebrity dream of a sleeping population.
Christ already has already returned, for salvation is of the heart .
His ransom was paid by the pouring out of the Spirit of Truth upon humanity from the crucifix.
Our error, among many, is looking for a physical relic of Christ, in the bible, or a talisman, when the Life of Christ needs to be taken as a Spiritual Life.
This was the purpose of his example.
We are spirit, with a body, for now.
Spirit is eternal. Hence His advice “Be in the world not of the world “
Our duty to God is to live our life.
All the hand wringing & sad feelings about the plight of this iteration of “civilisation” is an indulgence of the imagination for emotional thrills, “Christ said “Be of good cheer for I bring good news of the Kingdom”
He never said “Be afraid, be Very Afraid” for that us the currency of the demiurge.
This is kind of irrelevant if we consider the pace of history or how global processes developed earlier nothing to fret about considering regular life span. Some predicted the Collective West will collapse around 2040-2050 and I don't have the luxury or time to wait for those "turnings" to happen or unravel.Even retirement golden years look murky or uncertain with their attacks onour savings ,body freedoms or choices we used to have and took for granted.
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The West is going to destroy the world 🤦♀️ Trump can't stop them. Conservatism is an evolutionary dead end. This species never fucking learns.
No the west is going to implode. Trump can't stop it. No one can.
Nature is in charge.
The "west" became grossly out of balance and disconnected from reality- nature.
The fourth turning can be interpreted in several ways. Howe/Strauss over complicated it.
Spring- birth/rebirth
Summer- growth
Autumn- maturity/decay
Winter- death/end of cycle
Every western country has been living by heavily manipulated finances for several decade's. This can only go on so long, like any ponzi scheme.
The "west" is near the end. 99% are completely oblivious.
Russia & China are setting up an alternative financial system for 2 reasons-
#1. They no longer want to be at the mercy of the corrupt, evil & power hungry west.
#2. They know the western financial system ponzi scheme is going to collapse very soon and they don't want to get dragged down along with it
I think you are over estimating the power if the West and under estimating the resilience of the species. 'The world' will be fine and The Truth will attend to itself.
Another fascinating perspective. However, in my humble opinion, the Fourth Turning, which marks the crisis cycle, is far from over, as Prof. Dugin asserts.
Indeed, this ‘turning’ is now entering its ‘externalized destructive’ phase — a phrase that began and will end with President Trump.
Reference to the cyclical ‘nature’ of philosophical ‘progress’, with intonations of Historical Truths, will provide Humans with Faith and Hope towards a Future guided by Love for our Fellowship as a Species.
Jesus Christ has kicked out of the temple the Satanic Cannibalised Financial Merchants. In the XXI century Finance Capital laws and existence needs global wars for a comfortable fat Profit on the invested Capital. Philosophy has never resolved humanity’s downfall. There isn’t any awakening on the horizon.
The awakening comes after reality reasserts itself, following the collapse of the western financial system.
Survival instinct is a powerful awakener.
That’s the propulsive force of every thing concerning the development of Matter. The science of History is the only key to unlock Truth. I have the feeling that a “variation “ of a « nouveau bourgeoisie » is trying very hard to compete for global world power by a philosophical building of sophisms and hypocrisy.
Trump is a symbol of Bankruptcy, Mob Rule, and Debt Based Economy. The USA is underwater with a mortgage obligation for nothing of value.
Generally, I agree with this essay. Trump as a person, rather than Trump as a phenomenon (Trumpism), has only limited self-awareness. His self-awareness is circumscribed by its egoism and narcissistic nature. Attempts to ascribe intellectual attributes to him are misguided. He is, in his most essential social nature, a transactionalist. As a person, Trump is only a SIGN that we are rapidly approaching, or indeed may be in the early stages of the Fourth Turning. Trumpism on the other hand is its manifestation. It can be debated as to whether “wokeness” is the anti-Christ or whether Trump the man is…in either case, historically, i.e., temporally, they are virtually inseparable.
Alexander,
Please consider this: like all scheduled behavioral cycles, the ~80y S-H generational cycle is likely "just" a hormone cycle, as ~70% of mammalian populations undergo multiannual population-wide hormone cycles, the period ranging from 2y fish cycles to +60y caribou cycles. In all species' cycles - no matter the environment - all animals in a cyclical population undergo four phases of a predetermided behavioral pattern.
These four phases are the same as in the S-H generational cycle: https://jannemiettinen.fi/FourthTurning/
"The works of Weaver".
Please what's this gentleman's first name?
I'll Google him.
Thanks
I think it’s better to understand current events on their own terms instead of trying to see how they resemble past events. To understand the moment as it presents itself instead of trying to see how it fits in a cycle. This especially true of the current situation in post-Assad Syria, which is proving to be an unprecedented revolution.
Trump is also unprecedented in everything he does politically. He is not really conservative or liberal or left. He needs to be understood according to his own reference.
I think you’re placing too much hope in Trump.
"Woke culture is the culture of the Antichrist" Extremely wrong approach. The claim suits an ignorant person!!!
I believe when we recur to symbolism some flawed aspects of reality don't come into play, we tend to elevate what is already high and bring down what is already low, and human imperfection doesn't really match the perfection and the symbolism of an history so close-ended. I think its natural place is literature.
Second problem is we will never know if we're dealing with a self-fulfilling prophecy, the cyclical nature of history may not even exist and thus the High age promised would be a bitter illusion, this is a risk, but the analysis definitely has a point and has much to do with what's happening in the world.
Mr. Dugin needs to explain why Russian nationalist loyal patriot Strelkov (Girkin) was put in jail by Putin. Jailing Russian patriots is treason.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation liquidated the deputy commander of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Russian Federation
Salim Muharbetovych Pashtov, deputy commander of the 810th Marine Brigade, who was at the command post in the city of Lhov, Kursk Region, at the time of the attack, was killed.
More accurately- the American attack nazi's in Ukraine liquidated the deputy commander in another terrorist attack in Russia.